November 6, 2007

Not much outrage out there

The most telling thing about the results at the polls today is that voters didn't blink about returning incumbents to office.
Every single incumbent - four city councilors and most of the Board of Education - was reelected. And Art Ward, a 14-year councilor, was tapped as mayor.
So for all the anger, all the protests, all the frustration, there is, in the end, not much to show for it.
Only one person in the entire race, Republican Councilor-elect Ken Cockayne, could possibly be said to have won because of any feeling out there that change was needed. He barely squeaked by Democratic newcomer Bruce Lydem, who perhaps represented the status quo more than Cockayne did.
In the school board race, it's tough to ignore that the two people who got the most votes were Tom O'Brien and Barbara Doyle, the two most visible champions of the plan to switch to a K-8 system and to build two new 900-student schools.
O'Brien and Doyle got more votes than anyone on the ballot other than Ward. They raked in more votes than Republican mayoral hopeful Ken Johnson, both city treasurer candidates and 11 other school board contenders.
Whether you agree with their position on the schools or not, that's an impressive showing.
To whatever degree the election was about change, it sure looks like the voters preferred the status quo.
In fact, the results show that so strongly that it's kind of surprising that Johnson pulled in 48 percent of the mayoral tally.
Perhaps that means, as well, that voters weren't as tired of Mayor William Stortz's administration as candidates on both sides argued. After all, he's been at the center of the storm, and if the winds didn't blow anyone away, that says something.

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Contact Steve Collins at scollins@bristolpress.com

37 comments:

Anonymous said...

Steve, you analysis if off on this one. O'Brien and Doyle are easily the two most familiar faces of the Board of Education, along with maybe Chris Wilson, who finished 3rd I think. The rest are unknowns to even party insiders, and with no campaign from BOE candidates and very little press coverage, it makes sense voters would cast the most votes for the most familiar names.

It's a big mistake for anyone to conclude anything about policies from these results.

Steve Collins said...

It wouldn't be the first time I was off the mark.

Steve Collins said...

I wouldn't disagree that Doyle, O'Brien and Wilson are the most visible of all those school board candidates. No doubt that helped them.
But there was still no sign of outrage, which is kind of surprising given the vehemence of the opposition at many meetings this year.

Anonymous said...

Where would the outrage be directed at? The current BOE had Democrats and Republicans in support of the school plans. SOme of them aren't running for re-election, and if the public doesn't know anything about the current candidates, there isn't much they can do to voice their anger.

Anonymous said...

Steve,

Good analysis:if the Republicans had supported Stortz, they would have at least one more seat.

Time will show that he did well for Bristol.

Anonymous said...

I was surprised as well. I thought for sure that the BOE would suffer a hit or two. I certainly didn't expect high numbers.

I would like to see what the final BOE numbers were. What numbers did the losing candidates have?

Anonymous said...

Never mind - I see the numbers listed in the next post.

Prindle and Ridingsworth didn't lose by much.

Anonymous said...

Steve -

You reported the following about the registered voters in our City previously....

Registered Bristol voters this year
Independents -13,497
Democrats – 12,917
Republicans – 5,306
Others - 44
Total - 31,764
Source: Bristol Registrar’s Office

Are you able to obtain information on how many people voted yesterday and how it breaks down in terms of affliations?

I'd really be interested to know how the numbers play out.

Thanks!

Anonymous said...

This election only shows how much we need a City Manager. Mayor Elect ward has not told us where he stands on most issues. Voted to buy the Mall only to make it look like there was unity on the Council? Voted to take Bugryn property by eminent domain? Wants a City Manager? He won because of his Political Machine not on the issues.Steve Mayor Stortz was right the people need to be mad as heck to elect a person without prior service on the Council."Not much outrage out there" You are right on the mark Steve


Rich Armington

Anonymous said...

Steve,
In a Democrat dominated city, Ken Johnson came very close to beating a relatively well-known veteran politician. Are you giving Johnson the credit he deserves?
Also please take into account the bashing Johnson received from the current (R.I.N.O.) mayor.

Anonymous said...

I'm outraged by Ward campaign's "November surprise" and the coverage it recieved in this blog.
You Steve, and Bill Stortz deserve credit for Ward's victory. Congratulations.

Steve Collins said...

I don't believe that Ward's campaign had anything at all to do with Johnson's resignation from the buyer's agent organization. I have yet to see or hear anything that supports that argument.
As for Johnson's campaign, well, he came pretty darn close to winning. That says it all, doesn't it? I saw how the Republicans were thrilled at the prospect that he wants to run again in 2009 (or actually is already running again), and that also shows something.
I don't doubt that Mayor Stortz's needling hurt Johnson a bit, but I'm also sure he benefited from the bitterness of the Democratic primary. He surely won over a number of Zoppo voters who may not be there for him next time around.
In any case,Johnson surely ran a strong campaign and had an agenda that resonated pretty well with the public. His issues won't vanish -- he put them on the table for the long run -- and Johnson himself won't disappear either if he's running again.
So it's going to be interesting watching how all of this plays out over time.
By the way, I've never been lumped in with Stortz before. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

Anonymous said...

Steve-
If you were truly paying attention, I think you would have noticed that not all of the Republicans were "thrilled" at the thought (or reality) of another Johnson candidacy...

Most of the cheers were from the Orange clad folks from the second district who had a lot to be happy about last night. One of the problems Ken should realize he had was that he failed to recognize there are voters that live outside of Chippens Hill that may also be inclined to vote Republican.

If anyone should be outraged it should be hardworking Republicans tired of mediocre party leadership.

Anonymous said...

Steve, You see no connection regardng the timing and the source (relative of Marino, a Democrat loyalist)?

I'm sorry but I do.

Steve Collins said...

I saw the Marinos last night. They seemed genuinely shocked that anyone had accused them of doing anything at all. The Realtor they're accused of conspiring with is an ex-son-in-law, I think, which is hardly the kind of solid connection to Ward that some of you want to make it, particularly given that I never spoke to the Realtor who apparently filed the complaint. I did not know who he was.
For what it's worth, and I know it won't mean much to those with a conspiratorial bent, I can't imagine the Marinos having a hand in this. I've known them a long time. They're just not political operators of that sort.
As for the GOP cheers, it is true that some people looked less than thrilled. But what does it matter? The 2009 election is a long way off and things will shake out in the months ahead, with the first test being who runs the GOP after this?

Anonymous said...

Get over the lose people. Johnson is now saying he will win in 2009? How rude to think that in 2 years this city will not be on the move forward. No thanks Johnson - we don't need you.

Anonymous said...

Steve, can you get the numbers of no vote recorded and write-ins in each category? When the numbers came out of the computers last night every category had numbers allocated to write-in and no vote recorded. I recognize that the NVR may have been from voter error or possible bullet voting but it may have also been a non-vote in protest.

The location I was at had a some sizable numbers in the NVR category, especially in BOE. I think that data can add some additional analysis to this outcome. Especially as to how these numbers pertain to the total. Outrage can take different forms.

Anonymous said...

Hey Bob Boudreau,
I hadn't heard that you'd taken over as editor of the Press. Congrats! I'm sure Steve, who's been doing a great job for years without taking orders from above (that's what it means to be a professional), will be thrilled to start taking on all your neato assignments.

Anonymous said...

"They seemed genuinely shocked that anyone had accused them of doing anything at all"

Whatever Steve. No one's trying to have the Marinos deported to Cuba. The timing just smells of politics. The fact that there is a "relation-ship" to Bristol smells of politics in one way, shape or form as well. Please don't insult us anymore Steve.

Anonymous said...

Regarding Stortz's "nedling" of Johnson: what was said that wasn't true?
Johnson missed meetings because of an ailing father, but at the same time could announce and plan to run for mayor?
Entered into a contract with the city, got $10,000 up front but with what results, and is no longer (or was)involved?

How much else don't we know?

Anonymous said...

Yeah, Yeah Yeah.. Stortz is my friggin' hero. Give me a break. He's a vindictive RINO.

He attacked Johnson UNFAIRLY. Anyone who disputes that doesn't understand normal buisness procedures regarding the work norms of consultants and their clients.

Anonymous said...

Is Johnson planning on buying back into his company?

What is the plan for the CL&P refund research now?

Anonymous said...

What is the matter with some of you-- you write on the man's blog, yet you think he is lying about the source-- Steve said, he did not talk to John Herman, or know who he was prior to this. The "source" told Steve that he did not have any political or other ties to Bristol. Just wanted people to have the facts about Johnson's business practices-- Why can't you accept this and move on.
You are all just trying to take the focus away from what Johnson did.

Anonymous said...

Anon: "It's the timing stupid"

Anonymous said...

Please explain the unfairly.

Did Johnson honor the contract?
Where is he?
After 10 months, what does his former, and soon to be, company have to show what they have done for Bristol.
Apparently Stortz AND the attorneys did read the contract, have you?
Johnson's only reply was to abandon his responsibility to the city.
He could have renegoiated, but no, he just bailed out as he has done on so many other times.

Tell me, what did stortz do wrong???

Anonymous said...

I do believe that in two years bristol will not have made any moves forward...Maybe FOR Ward himself..but not for the people of bristol.

Anonymous said...

"Did Johnson honor the contract?"

---Yes he did

"Where is he?"

---He's home maybe you should call him?

The attorney is a hack who doesn't know what he's talking about.

Stortz is a nasty, bullying, vindictive guy

Anonymous said...

ENOUGH ALREADY! It's over. Time to move on. Bristol needs some serious work and the constant sniping and counterproductive bull-crap needs to stop. Let's all grow up and play nice. It's time to back the new mayor and get things moving in the right direction.

Anonymous said...

1:12 what the heck do you know!

Anonymous said...

2:17 poster AKA Stortz: Get out of here!

Anonymous said...

SAT Test Question

Which of the following is true:

A) Paul and Gloria live happily in Bristol CT. Their sole factual connection to John Herman, was that Paul married John’s sister (a marriage that ended around 1969). The Marino’s have never even slightly influenced John politically, with the possible exception that Gloria once brought Swedish meatballs to a party John went to, which positively influenced his opinion of Sweden.

B) Paul and Gloria, seemingly friendly people just like you and me, actually run an international spy ring specializing in election outcomes. In addition, Paul falls curiously silent when questioned about his covert ops first as a navy seal and then with the CIA, just as Gloria fails to reveal her stint as the notorious deep-cover cold war American operative code named “NATASHA”. Neither admits they are regularly called upon to fix the space shuttle when it won’t work right (Sure, sure Gloria…I suppose it fixes itself).

C) The federal government of the United States should go back to adhering to the constitution (just as if it were a law or something).

D) A and C.

Anonymous said...

3:30 poster - I'm most definitely not Mr. Stortz, just a concerned citizen who's pretty tired of having anonymous boneheads trash my city.

Anonymous said...

to Anonymous November 7, 2007 10:44 AM:

Not sure why you want to be nasty.....but then again...the anonymity of the internet gives so many people the power to be nasty.....

What I asked of Steve was not nasty like your statement or even demanding...I asked an honest question....

I think it would be an interesting comparison to see how many of each party affliation voted, not just the overall voter turnout.

Furthermore, I think it is probably one of those informational things the public is able to get....so I'll give the Registars office a call tomorrow myself....

Anonymous said...

I'm Stupid?
The timing is--- Mr. Johnson resigned on October 30, instead of responding to the investigation/complaint-- how could Steve get the information prior to that-- Sometimes facts are uncovered as they occur-- did you ever hear of breaking news?
Name calling sure makes you "smart" doesn't it-- If any facts came out that were positive-- that would be OK, but important information that you just don't like,even if true, now that should be witheld?

Anonymous said...

You can make the numbers look good for the school board, but the fact is,
They got a total of 30782 for the board, 26822 against them.
53% victory does not mean a over welmening support for the K-8 system
Too bad the numbers cant tell which voters were properity owners and which
where section 8 voters or renters. I am sure they would love the K-8 system,
It wont cost them any more taxes since they don’t have to pay the higher properity taxes that well cost to get these K-8 schools
As far as Mr Ward, congratulation on the victory, did not vote for you,
So I hope you do a good job, cause you were only 4% from losing.
As far as all those of you WHO didn’t VOTE , do complain if you don’t take part.

Anonymous said...

2005
Stortz 7135
Couture 4949

2007
Ward 5912
Johnson 5549


Would have been nice to have Stortz vs Ward

Anonymous said...

Stortz was all done. He knew it. That's why he didn't run again.