When I get the names of those selected, I'll put the names of everyone on both the Republican and Democratic town committees online here. (Anyone who has them on a computer, please do me a favor and email them to me. It would be much appreciated!) Feel free to tell everyone what you know about the results, readers. I've heard of a few potentially interesting tidbits.
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98 comments:
on the GOP side Steve, you know where to get the best quotes...
PS: He's not on the "list"
There won't be any surprises on the Dem side - Mayor Ward learned the hard way what happens when you don't cultivate the town committee and so he will be looking to avenge that embarassment so he never has to suffer that humiliation again of people who know your politics the best passing you over. I predict he gets supporters on in key precincts.
He had the chance to do it joey but he chose not to.This action to night if you are right will only continue the rift.and that will hurt all DEMS
well it dont look good for arts crew but lets all get back to work and do the peoples work
Here are the results for 79A:
Tony Dell'Aera, Elliot Nelson, Wes Hoadley, Brent Cry, Tom Ragaini and Paula Positano.
When I walked into the caucus room filled with strangers who had never attended a Town Committee meeting, Tom Ragaini was handing out slips of paper to people with 6 names on it, telling everyone that those were the names that Art wanted on the Town Committee for 79A. He happened to hand one of those slips of paper to Maria Pirro because he didn't recognize her as a current member of the Town Committee in his own precinct. Needless to say, Maria and I were the two current Town Committee members who were not on Art's "list." As Ellen supporters, this came as no surprise to us. We knew all about the spreadsheet that Donna Achilli put together for people who Art wanted on the Town Committee. We also knew that Art and Elliot were at a certain bar trying to get people who supported him to run against those who were not in his favor or to go to the various caucuses to vote for the people on the "list." So much for Art trying to "unite" the Democratic Town Committee by trying to stack the deck against the incumbents who didn't support him in the primary. His plan fell thru in several precincts, where incumbents not on the "list" brought in more supporters than he did.
I enjoyed my two terms on the town committee and worked hard to get the candidates I believed in elected. I am not upset that I didn't get reelected; I just don't like the way the whole situation was handled. The email I got from Elliot early this week telling me he hoped I was running again when he knew all along I wasn't on the "list" was the icing on the cake.
I would like to congratulate all my friends who got reelected to the DTC and wish them the best of luck. I will continue to do my best to make Bristol a better place to live by devoting more time to the committees and boards I currently serve on that are unrelated to city politics.
Looks like it was all rumors although there were pro-Ward slates in some precints- most incumbents got back on, a few new faces which is always good....no blood spilled.
Because the Zoppo supporters can't get over it and grow up!
Republicans are looking STRONG coming into the 2008-2010 Town Committee. A great blend of experience and energy.
Actually its the WARD supporters that can not get over it ART must think he can not get the ENDORESMENT for the next election why else would you want to clean house
It would not matter if Ward didn't get the endorsement...he would do what he did this past election....
Choose to also run as an independent.
I guess when your chicken coop is the one that is raided is when mother hen flaps her wings, or beak?
get over it Sue, if you exerted any effort at all and didn't think that the DTC owed you something, you would have had the support there to get you reelected.
Bristol Republican losers: going no where fast
I can't believe that Art Ward was so against Ellen scripting a meeting when he did the same thing with the caucuses. Sue Gorski worked extremely hard on the town committee the past few years and will be sorely missed. There are plenty of organizations in town who will be happy to snatch her up because she's very smart and talented.
If Sue Gorski's account is accurate, and I am sure it is since its first person, then Art should be ashamed for his tactics. Standing up and calling for unity at a Dem meeting and then doing this is not the way to show leadership. If he had asked for room to be made for some of his key supporters who worked hard for him, I am sure room would have been made for them and it would have been the more honest approach. He is the chief elected Democratic official - no one would question his desire to expand his base and get some friendly faces on DTC. I think it all comes down to the fact that he has surrounded himself with people who are not the best advisors.
right, and Tinkerbelle spreads her fairy dust on your wish list of dreams - wake up or move to Sleepy Hollow.
IN RESPONSE TO SUE GORSKI:
Sue, I appreciate your account of the events, however you were incorrect in your assumption quoted as "We knew all about the spreadsheet that Donna Achilli put together for people who Art wanted on the Town Committee."
My husband and I are in 77C. I requested an electronic copy of the dems in our precinct from the registrar office, which I converted into a spreadsheet. I gave this to the people that we knew were intereseted in joining the town committee or remining on - it wasn't based on a list of people that the Mayor supported. I sent it to 9 people. Most of the people that were initially interested decided against it because they didn't want to get caught in the name bashing and rumor mills that have come from past town committee memberships.
It's a shame that people are apprehensive about getting involved for fear of personal attack. I hope that the people who were elected last night to serve on the DTC will all come together to admonish that perception.
Those that were elected in 77C were Barbara Doyle, Chad Lockhart, Jim Brown, Linda St. Pierre, Mary Ellen Holden and myself. This is a great mix of dedicated hard workers who believe in a united support of our democratic leaders and a fresh start for our DTC to regain the confidence of our voting population.
As Councilman Block pointed out last night, Barbara Doyle is a very dedicated hard worker who has served the DTC and the BOE well. I know personally that Chad Lockhart is also a dedicated person with young children in our school system. Jim Brown is also a committed member of the community that I'm sure will serve the DTC with pride. Although I don't know them personally, I have only heard good things about Mary Ellen Holden and Linda St. Pierre.
We have a new chance to pull together with this new membership. Let's stick to that mission with a positive first step instead of a negative one. The Bristol community is counting on us.
---handing out slips of paper to people with 6 names---
Sounds kinda like scripting to me ... ;-)
----he would do what he did this past election....----
Call on the press to sabotage his opponents again ???
Sue Gorski is the most organized person ever. There is no one who can run a fundraiser like her. Her talents and humor will be sorely missed on the town committee. Art Ward did you wrong. Petty payback on his part for you not sucking up to him. Certainly not something you would expect from a man who wanted party unity.
This is why Art will be a one term mayor (and not by his chosing).
Its interesting how wared's supporters somehow feel they are taking the high road and complaining that ellen's supporters are mired in the past. Many of the zoppo supporters i know actually went ahead and voted for ward in the general election while ward's supporters were going to vote independent if their guy didn't win. Not to mention many of ellens supporters have pretty much left the primary in the past and are looking forward to the next cycle and keeping the democrat incumbants in office while trying to build stron opposition to regain the seats that aren't held by the democrats. Just one question really for ward's supporters who do you expect to move for"ward" when you stay stuck in the past?
Sounds to me that Gorski got what ZOPPO been doing to her non supporters for years.Ask SANDY STAFFORD she`ll fill you in SUE.
I guess the "mother hen" in this instance was Art Ward. Unity is only good as long as there are people who want it and are willing to work for it. Deceptive tactics such as handing out already filled in ballot sheets with "Art's picks", although allowed, is tacky and insensitive to those who are already on and wish to remain on. Don't try to put up a smoke screen by talking about Zoppo supporters not being able to handle it and grow up. The Ward supporters know what they did and it certainly can't be hidden. They're the ones that need to GROW UP!
I heard Block got slapped and wasn't happy that he received such a low amount of votes.
Heard through the grapevine that the GOP team had a closed door meeting after the votes were in. Maybe they didn't like the results.
TO SUE GORSKI:
Thanks for you honesty Sue. It was very courageous of you to tell us what went down. Why don't YOU run for office? You're smart enough and you certainly have the honesty and integrity that the current administration is sorely lacking. Don't let the morons get to you.
KEN JOHNSON 2009 - LOOKING BETTER AND BETTER EVERY DAY!
Town Republicans are not in great shape. We couldn't even get enough people for all the town committee seats, and some had to name spouses to the seats just so they wouldn't be empty.
Republicans for Art Ward Committee...coming soon!
.....amazing thing about all of this junk is that most of us could care less about the makeup of either of these town committees - most of those that care about it are only frustrated political hacks anyhow.
Republicans for Nicastro and Minor coming soon!
Maybe the Republicans have their problems because Mocabee and Schaffrick are pulling the strings.
They will continue to flounder until those, and a few others are removed.
YOU GOT MY VOTE SUE NO MATTER WHAT YOU RUN FOR. YOUR A CLASS ACT.
Is there anything Sue Gorski hasn't done over the years to help others? Her names in the paper all the time for some charity fundraiser or other good deed. Those guys dont deserve her. She's kind and selfless and they'r ruthless bullies who think Arts god who'll get tem get a city job or buy them drinks at some bar or somethin. Dont let them get the best of you sue.
TheWard camp snakes were spewing there venom on the wrong people. They got rid of some good dedicated workers just for revenge. Sue was one of them. Now they're going to try to overthrow Dean Kilbolurne as Chairman of the Dem comittee. How does Ward sleep at night. Dont turn your back on him. Remember that what goes around comes around. He'll get his before you know it..
Art Ward needs to go to leadership school. If this is how underhanded he treats his own town committee I wonder what kind of sneaky things he's doing to the city. Really makes you wonder.
DONNA ACHILLES WORDS - "It's a shame that people are apprehensive about getting involved for fear of personal attack. I hope that the people who were elected last night to serve on the DTC will all come together to admonish that perception."
Donna you and your cronies are the ones who've been doing all the bashing all along. You and Mayra and the Pasquales. What a nerve you have to preach to others now. You should be ashamed. O thats right you have no shame.
I CANT BELIEVE WARDS PEOPLE WERE STUPID ENOUGH TO HAND OUT SLIPS OF PAPERS WITH NAMES ON THEM. WHO'S THE BRAINS OF THAT ORGANIZATION? RAGAINI SHOULD RESIGN HIS OFFICE. TALK ABOUT A SCRIPT TELLING PEOPLE WHO TO VOTE FOR. THE REPUBLICANS ARE LOOKING BETTER EVERY DAY.
Word is the Johnson got vindictive and worked to eliminate those who did not support him.
Gues he is taking lessons from Ward (or is it Schaffrick?).
Art Ward needs to go to leadership school. If this is how underhanded he treats his own town committee
What did the Zoppocratic Town Committee do for Art???
Lots of people didn't get re-elected including Ward supporters and Zoppo supporters. Sue Gorski isn't the only one.
Gorski needs to get over herself. She should have brought out more supporters to vote for her if she really wanted to stay on. How tough is it to get 20 people to come write your name down on a slip of paper???
Sour grapes Sue?
Thanks for you honesty Sue. It was very courageous of you to tell us what went down. Why don't YOU run for office? You're smart enough and you certainly have the honesty and integrity that the current administration is sorely lacking.
Honesty isn't a word I would use to describe her post. Perception, maybe - honest, no. Most of what she wrote was based on second third and fourth hand information. I know for a fact that much of what she wrote was wrong because I was actually there, not hearing it from someone else.
Sue, you worked hard in the past but you shouldn't have gone out like a kid who didn't get picked to play on the team. You should have left with a little more class - not leaving a messy and inaccurate post on Steve's blog.
Getting the last word isn't always the best thing to do.
ARTS CREW STILL AT IT > GOTTA BASH PEOPLE
Since Donna Achilli has no official city job and is not part of the Bristol Democratic leadership, at least according to the Dem website, was it legal for her to get a complete Democrat list of people's names and addresses and phone numbers and whatever else those lists contain?
Art's crew bashing people? You've got to be kidding. Are you reading the same blog I am?...all the nasty, vindictive comments are coming from the other side...its such a shame. Our City needs everyone to pull together now more than ever and all these blockheads can do is bash the Mayor and each other...how very sad.
To the 7:17 poster
Sue didn't leave her posting to get the last word. She left it so others could see for themselves what really happened that night. It was quite an eye opener into what the political picture is really like. I've know Sue for years and she wouldn't have written something that wasn't true. She was there and so were others who told it the same way. Don't try to discredit her to make what the Ward group did seem even remotely right. She has infinitely more class than anyone involved in last night's charades. You all should be ashamed of things you're saying about her and others who didn't choose to support the same candidate you did in the primary. Big deal. The primary has been over for quite some time. Trying to promote unity by knocking fellow town committe members down is real classy on your part. Sue is a Democrat and she tried hard to get along with everyone in the party. I never heard her say a nasty word about any of the Ward supporters. Or Ward for that matter. She even extended the olive branch to him after the primary. Look what being nice got her. I guess in the Ward party nasty is the new nice? Something to be proud of.
The 838 blogger needs to open her eyes and read the blog. This all started because of the neandrathalic actions of the Ward crew. An eye for an eye. When does it all end? And what did Maria Pirro do to invoke your dislike? Did you hear her saying nasty things about Art? I doubt it. She's got more intelligence than all of you put together. She must have been a threat because she's a strong competent woman so you had to get rid of her. UNITY AT ITS FINEST. GO WARD. DID THIS NONSENSE MAKE YOUR PARTY STRONGER? CERTAINLY NOT SMARTER.
Every day I thank God I don't live in Bristol.
Ragaini is not the brains of the operation, and whoever suggested that clearly doesn't have any.
I pity the people in the 77th.
Although I am grateful that Donna no longer reigns in the mayor's office, I say she has the right to get public information from the registar's office. The public is everyone, even her. Yes it is legal. You can do it and so can I. But not with the kind of style she has. RETCH!
If Art needs leadership lessons, he can just ask Ellen's friend Marie O'Brien what they're like.
MARIA PIRRO IS ELLEN'S COUSIN. THAT'S WHY SHE WAS OUSTED.
Zoppocratic....I gotta remember that one.
NIXON IS BACK IN THE WHITEHOUSE AND THE WATWRGATE CREW IS BACK AT WORK GO ART
727 poster you mean watergate crew you are right|||||||||||
HEY STEVE ---- SINCE WHEN DID THIS TURN INTO A BASH DONNA ACHILLI SITE?
SHE DOESN'T DESERVE THIS. HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE ELECTED TO THE DTC?
SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THESE PEOPLE FEEL THREATENED BY HER.
Yes, with interest. And the stuff that's not getting up is even more, um, interesting.
Gossip column! Gossip column! Gossip column!
If Pirro is Ellens cousin and if Lacey is related to Ellen, is he related to Pirro too?
What does the future hold for him?
RAGAINI THE BRAINS OF AN OPERATION. HAHAHA. WHY IS HE STILL INVOLVED IN POLITICS ANYWAY. HE DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHEN HE WAS ON THE CITY COUNCIL. AND ELIOT NELSON HIS SIDE KICK. HIS PLAN IS TO RULE THE DEM TOWN COMITTE BY GETTING RID OF DEAN. HE WAS TELLING PEOPLE LAST MONTH THAT DEAN WAS RUNNING FOR STATE REP AND THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE THE NEW CHAIR. DID EVERYTHING BEHIND DEAN'S BACK WHO HAD NEVER MENTIONED ANY INTEREST IN A STATE REP POSITION. DEAN FOUND OUT FROM ANN HOULIHAN WHOSE THE SECRETARY WHEN SHE GOT AN EMAIL FROM ELIOT TELLING HER HE WANTED HER TO STAY ON AS SECRTRY WHEN HE TOOK OVER. ANOTHER UNDERHANDED THING THE WARD CAMP CAN CLAIM. DID DONNA THINK OF THAT OR MIRA? THEY SAY ELLEN IS EVIL. WHAT DOES THAT MAKE THEM. THEY WANTED WOLF OUT IN THE WORST WAY SO ONE OF THEM COULD TAKE OVER. WOW. SMALL TOWN POLITICS AT IT'S FINEST. GOT RID OF MARIA BECAUSE SHES ELLENS COUSIN AND SUE BECAUSE SHES ELLENS OLD FRIEND. WERE THEY LIKE SPYS OR SOMETHING FOR ELLEN? WERE THEY GOING TO INFILTRATE THE RANKS AND DERAIL SOME PLAN TO RULE THE WORLD? THE INTRIGUE OF IT ALL. GO WARD. GO FAR AWAY!
HEY STEVE ---- SINCE WHEN DID THIS TURN INTO A BASH DONNA ACHILLI SITE?
SHE DOESN'T DESERVE THIS. HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE ELECTED TO THE DTC?
The day we all learned that Donna Achilli had gotten on her high horse to round up a posse of vigilantes to lynch former Ellen-supporters and elected official with the audacity to oppose Dean Kilbourne's decree that no elected officials shall serve on the DTC (but only the ones who were Ellen-supporters), was the day this became the Donna Whipping Post. Her self-righteousness and hypocrisy are breath-taking.
.....talk about a negative, non-contributing, sarcastic, degrading bunch of "my way or no-way" losers; ragaini has a list of people who his side wants to endorse, zoppo shows up with a preferred slate, evidently for her own perceived protection, she feared writing it down on paper, ward is out of town taping a news show and the blame for gorski and everyone else shifts away from zoppo? evidently, she left you all out to fry for yourselves. zoppo is the one that bill wulfe let into the caucus and allowed her to vote without the proper identification - special exception?- were you afforded that priviledge, is it right that one person is allowed to participate outside the rules but you aren't? think about it.
again it just seems that nothing has changed with zoppo or her group of wimpettes. they do serve a purpose though - just can't seem to define it - notice that I didn't classify it as anything to help anyone but them.
I heard that Art Ward got 35 people to go to the 79A caucus to dump Gorski and Pirro. They would have had to have come with 40 of their own people to overthrow the Ward-Ragaini-Nelson-Achilli plan. Ward left nothing to chance there. Ward must really have something against strong, smart women. His crew sure doesn't have any.
Gee, how come us republicans can't attract women like Zoppo and Achille?
You guys have all the fun.
All we get is Mocabee, Schaffrick,and Johnson.
What are we doing wronng?
OOPS, I forgot Geladono. How did you dems let him get away?
Rules are rules...I always have to present my ID when I vote. That is the procedure. Ms Zoppo knows the procedure. There are rules for a reason...I guess some people just feel they are above them.
EVERY voter in that room was required to present a photo ID...including all of the people Ms. Zoppo brought with her to make sure she got rid of the Pasquales and Mr. Gamache...
ARE YOU ALL REALLY SURE SHE DID NOT SHOW HER ID TO SOMEBODY ?
I AM ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE...
seems rules apply to everyone except except the queen, someone's butt should roll for that regardless of whether it affected or would affect the outcome or not - checks and balances are for everyone not just for the select few who are recognized by ms. ellen's stooge mr. wulfe
knowing exactly who zoppo was might have been reason enough not to allow her to vote, if it were up to me but, at the very least, she should not have been allowed to participate if she didn't comply with the rules like everyone else had to do. that's a no=brainer.
Steve, you, your controversy seeking wife and this blog are a big part of the problem. No one that's half way decent wants to get involved in anything because they are afraid they will end up being the topic of this rumor mill blog. So much of what is posted here are blatent lies. And you are the source.
Do Bristol a favor and go work for the National Inquirer.
If I ever write anything that's not correct, please tell me. I'm more than happy to run corrections -- and more importantly, I want to make sure I don't keep running the same mistake over and over.
But don't blame me for the comments here. I was not at the town committee meetings. I have no firsthand knowledge about what happened. I haven't even spoken with anyone about the results. Everything I know about those meetings, I learned from people posting on this blog. And, obviously, some people are contradicting each other!
Taking anonymous comments too seriously is foolish, but I understand why people don't like them. I'm not a big fan of them either, but there doesn't seem to be any way on the internet to be certain who's posting.
Anyway, I'm trying to find the right balance between killing comments for being too out of line -- such as Ms. X is having an affair with Mr. Y or "that f--ing Mr. Z is a crook" -- and those that add to the discussion.
It's particularly tough on a thread such as this where I have no independent knowledge of what transpired. All I can do is make a fair effort.
If someone thinks a particular comment is out of line, drop me a note and tell exactly which one you're talking about -- and which thread it's on! -- and why it's wrong. I wipe out comments all the time after somebody points out why they shouldn't be allowed. I don't always agree, of course, but I often do kill them.
One other thing... I don't think that anonymous posts on this blog are that much different than the bar gossip or over-the-fence chatter that people have always feared. I don't believe for a second that this blog is making it less likely that people will participate in city government. Those who are thin-skinned have always steered clear of such public positions. It's no different today.
The National Enquirer has no interest in Bristol news, unfortunately, so I don't think my prospects of getting hired there are too good.
...Funny how when some people can't come up with good reason for bad behavior, they try to shift the attention from the behavior to the person who reported it...
Just for some information, there is no rule that says you have to present any I.D. The reason I.D.'s were presented is because they were anticipating a large turnout to vote and wanted to make sure the people who were there were eligible to vote. In years past no one has shown any I.D. I know that for a FACT! So let's not say this is something that is required, because we all know it isn't.
Secondly, The same thing happened in another precinct with regard to a Ward supporter, but do we hear Ward people screaming about that person coming in without I.D.? Of course not. Again, it's one of those "it's okay for Artie's group, but not for anyone who supported Zoppo." How about Mr. Michaud hollering to the rafters because he came in so late and the door had already been closed? Did you see the Zoppo supporters blocking him from voting knowing he is an ardent Ward supporter? Of course not. The obstructionists are always the ones who scream the loudest when they feel they've been wronged, but when they've wronged others, they clam right up.
Also, everyone knows who Zoppo is. It would be different if we didn't know who she was. Again, the only reason licenses were checked in the first place was to make sure people were registered voters since there were soooo many unfamiliar faces. She is obviously a registered voter in that precinct so let's, in the words of our esteemed mayor, just move for-Ward!
What is the big deal about showing a driver's license when the person checking you in knows exactly who you are? My friends and I didn't have to show any driver's licenses because we were all known to be in the right caucus room for our precinct. You guys take things way too far. Get a life!
Sounds like theres a lot of action on the town committee. How do you join anyway?
Does the republican town committee have this many people who hate each other? WOW. A town committee member doesn't really have any power do they? What is the benefit of being on? I thought all they did was raise funds for politicians. Doesn't sound so important to me. Why do people take it so seriously?
The members of the democratic town committee were told not to read this blog. Hoooey. Here's my 2 cents. We'll miss you Sue. Come to the meetings anyway. We love your sense of humor and sarcastic comments.
If the DTC doesn't know who Ellen Zoppo is with certainity after having endorsed her for mayor then they have bigger problems to deal with.
Be serious. This complaint is just plain stupid. Like it or not Ellen Zoppo is a well-known person in politics. She was a city councilor for 6 years. If the people on the DTC don't know her then they shouldn't be part of the committee.
"Does the republican town committee have this many people who hate each other? WOW. A town committee member doesn't really have any power do they? What is the benefit of being on? I thought all they did was raise funds for politicians. Doesn't sound so important to me. Why do people take it so seriously?"
As a clarification. While the Republican Town Committee may have such people most of the exchange on this topic has been about the Democratic Town Committee.
...There were many familiar faces at the meeting and every single one of them complied with the request for ID...except one.
...There were many familiar faces at the meeting and every single one of them complied with the request for ID...except one.
Not true. At least one other woman, and I won't name her because it doesn't matter, was not asked to show her driver's license because the people running the meeting knew who she was (the fact that they thought she was a Ward support is just a coincidence, of course). Just like they knew who Ellen was.
No one in 77C was asked for their ID or license. The chairperson, Barbara Doyle said that we were using the honor system.
It's not a requirement.
"No one in 77C was asked for their ID or license. The chairperson, Barbara Doyle said that we were using the honor system."
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In other words, Doyle was too lazy to check. Or perhaps they needed dishonorable people to vote.
It's time for Doyle to go away.
I did not see a single driver's license displayed at Greene-Hills School, so it must have been just the whim of whoever was running the meeting for 78B.
Maybe they thought that someone would try to sneak in disguised as Ellen.
...ewwww...now that's a scary outfit!!!
Enough is Enough Steve. Why don't you just get rid of this post? It's gotten way out of hand and is serving no good purpose.
For the record there were some 68 people in the room for 78A.It was only prudent for those running that particular caucus to take a little precaution and ensure all in attendance were registered voters from that precinct.
I was very disgusted to read about the DTC's election last week. Why are the people prazing Sue Gorski as if she were the sole person on the DTC committe.
Donna Achille came out of the wood work for what reason, she was never like when she was secretary to Mr. Couture.
What was the reason Ellen wanted to get rid of the Pasquales and Tim Gimache. Getting rid of the Pasquales was in the works for at least a year. I do not know them myself, but from all I hear about them is they were the bull workers on the committe for Ellen, Couture and Artie. Did she forget this.
Do not know Sue, and I am sure she is a fine persosn, but I heard she did not hold a candle to the Pasquales. All I can say is Ellen got her wish just like she did with Kosta.
The Pasquales did nothing but cause trouble on the town committee. Domenic verbally abused members on more than one occasion and even caused a mini "riot" after one of the meetings. They will not be missed.
January 16 10:30pm is proving everyone's point about how useless this forum has become.
FIRST PARAGRAPH: Praising, not Prazing.
SECOND PARAGRAPH: Donna was well liked by everyone that appreciated how hard she worked and the crap she caught on a daily basis just for being a secretary. The people that didn't like her were the City employees that ACTUALLY TOLD HER TO STOP WORKING SO HARD BECAUSE SHE WAS MAKING THEM LOOK BAD. Also, a question requires a questionmark.
THIRD AND FOURTH PARAGRAPHS: If you don't know them then do not make statements about them. "I have heard..." is where people go wrong. If you haven't experienced working with these people, then stop assuming that you "know" them well enough to make any comments about them when you admit to not knowing them.
Pasquales were strong workers, so was Sue Gorski. Donna Achilli had strengths that helped everyone out throughout the years too, even Ellen. You can't find someone more dedicated or honest than Tim Gamache.
I can make these statements because I've working with all of them.
Are you posting from City Hall? Or may be not, because you posted after 4pm and city workers usually leave early.
to 10:20 who said "Do not know Sue, and I am sure she is a fine persosn, but I heard she did not hold a candle to the Pasquales."
In the past two years Sue organized two fundraisers for Frank Nicastro and worked on the campaigns and at the fundraisers for Zoppo, MCcauley, Block and Viets. Maybe others too that I'm not aware of. She was there whenever anyone asked for help bringing desserts and raffle prizes or whatever. And Sue never caused trouble by badmouthing others and starting rumors. She tried to get along with people no matter who they were voting for.
Don't get me wrong the Pasquales worked on campaigns too but it was a control thing for them. They only wanted select people involved and loved to bash others who for some reason or other they didn't like. Unity and harmony were not in their vocabulary. Petty and confrontational were.
So if you didn't know the people involved it is kind of like comparing apples to oranges.
It is true, the Pasquales did cause trouble and dissention on the town committee.from Couture on.
Buy they stepped up to the plate and worked hard at HdQTRS. Let's see who will take that position now. Let's see who will be working hard for the cause. This bunch didn't work hard before, so why would they now? It wasn't Ellen that stacked the votes against Pasquales. I think it is time Art Ward and his team got Ellen out of their heads. They drove the wedge, split the town committee in two. She has to feel preety good that she has such an impact on so many people!!! You go girl!!
Let's all move on. enough..
Many of these people are retired or have city or state jobs with unions that let them devote tons of time to their political party activities. how much time did city workers spend at taxpayer expense preparing for this? Did they use city resources not available to average citizens?
no time was used at the cities expense by the unions.
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