April 18, 2008

Scoop the poop?

City leaders are pondering whether to try do anything about dog droppings.
“I guess it’s a health issue,” said Dale Clift, the soon-to-be city attorney.
Spurred by a complaint from resident Tom Zipp, the Ordinance Committee is considering whether to pursue a new statute that would require dog owners to pick up after their pets.
Many municipalities across the country have pooper scooper laws on the books that mandate that dog owners clean up after their animals rather than walking away from the piles of excrement.
Though Bristol doesn’t have a generally applicable regulation that forces pet owners to be responsible, it does have a law requiring dog owners to scoop the poop in parks and on school property.
Clift said it is a policy choice that officials can make about whether to extend the protection given city-owned property more generally.
It’s possible that letting a dog leave its droppings on someone’s lawn is already trespassing and perhaps it could open the dog owner up to a civil court claim, officials said.
But few expect complaints to reach that level often.
Councilor Craig Minor, who heads the ordinance panel, said the real answer is that “sometimes neighbors need to suck it up and confront their neighbor” if they’re unhappy about dog droppings.
But another member of the panel, Councilor Kevin McCauley, said that it can be awfully difficult to approach some dog owners.
He said that he believes there would be a lot of interest in adopting the law.
“I don’t like coming out and seeing excrement,” McCauley added.
“Try going over it with a lawnmower,” Councilor Mike Rimcoski interjected, with a look that made it clear he had some unhappy memories.
Even so, Rimcoski expressed skepticism about cracking down on dog owners.
“What about cats? What about monkeys? What about humans?” Rimcoski asked.
Zipp said that he was spurred to ask the city to take action after he confronted a woman walking two dogs on his property.
He said that after both animals left some droppings on his lawn he asked the woman if she planned to pick it up.
The unknown dog owner responded by asking whether she was supposed to put the poop in her pocket.
The existing city law requires that pets be “under control” of owners at all times, though it doesn’t even specifically mandate that they be on a leash.
Ignoring the pooper scooper laws in the parks and on school property, imposed in 1995, can lead to $90 fines.
The city considered extending its poop-scooping law to include the property along sidewalks a decade ago, but dropped the idea because councilors thought the problem was minimal and enforcement unlikely.
There are more than 2,500 registered dogs in the city, with hundreds more unlicensed.

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21 comments:

Anonymous said...

More feel good stuff that is not anything the city should be getting into. How many people have been issued tickets for not scopping on school property or at parks? There is no way the police can handle this so why put it on the books? I hope the Council has the ba--s to stop this one before it gets stupid. We can't expect our legislators to legislate everything.

Anonymous said...

"I guess it's a health issue" -Dale Clift

--I guess you're a lawyer but not a ball of fire.

"what about monkeys,...humans" Mike Rimjobski

--I guess you won't mind if I come take a huge crap on your lawn.

Anonymous said...

Hey .... you can't expect the elite to scoop the poop . They are much to busy trying to intimidate taxpayers w/ warrantless searches of their homes , and forcing others to comply w/ their opinion of how the world should be run .

Maybe I should rent a big mangy mutt and walk him in these 'acceptible' neighborhoods after feeding him some of my famous homemade chili . ;-)

Anonymous said...

How about fining Mr.Zipp for what he does with his property? He's a much worse offender than the dogs pooping on the lawns.

Neverheless, people have complained about this dog poop issue for years, annd only now that the influential Tom Zipp is mad do we hear leaders actually address this issue? It figures.

Anonymous said...

Is this the #1 priority of this administration???????????

Anonymous said...

The Pot calling the Kettle black.

Who does Zipp know in City Hall?

Anonymous said...

Get a backbone Mr. Tom Zipp
you should have been able to take care of this yourself without crying to city hall.
Your property, take her to small claims court if she doesn’t want to pick up the mess.
Don’t be a baby and take care of it yourself. We don’t need city hall involved in issues like this. If she didn’t pick it up while you were there, you think a law will?

Anonymous said...

How about lowering my taxes????????

Anonymous said...

Are these the same guys that want to select someone to run the city?

Wow!

Should be reason enough not to consider a COO.

Anonymous said...

What a shame that our high priced politicians are so caught up in the pooper scooper. There are so many other BIG issues in our city than to be concerned with who is going to pick up dog poop. Growing up as a kid we had no such thing as a dog park, we just let them run in the back yard. Anything wrong with that? We have 15 different project going (no where) and this is the citys big concern. What about Rockwell Park, kids walking home from school, what are they doing about these important issues. I myself think that all our elected officials stink. McCauley is it beneath you to have poop in your yard. Oh yes I forget you live in the high and mighty area. So other than this issue what other issues have you looked into? Get a life and start thinking of MORE important thing that need to be taken care of.

Anonymous said...

The elite don't want to pick up after their dogs. That's why they go up to the "dog park" on chippens hill and leave the mess for the City to tip toe through and the residents that just want to go for a walk up there.

It's disgusting. If the city does something for Zipp about this they better consider a clean up plan for the Chippens hill dog park.

Anonymous said...

You can thank Minor, McCauley and Zoppo for creating this mess! A few years ago it was tried to be put on thr oridience but Zoppo whou chaired it didn't want to upset the dog owners (voters). I think we should just ban all dogs on city and park property!! Then if they are there fine them!!
End of dog poop!!

Anonymous said...

I would rather ban people in the parks. They're more trouble than dogs.

Anonymous said...

Hey Kevin, maybe the firemen can go around and pick up the poop.

Anonymous said...

Let the union clean up shit. Give them something to do . Then see if they back ward next year.

Anonymous said...

THATS A GOOD JOB FOR MIKE PETOSA. HE SHOULD RELATE GOOD TO POOP.

Anonymous said...

It might be a good campaign gimmick: candidates offering to clean up al the poop (other than theirs).

Better than a jar opener or pencil.

Anonymous said...

Obviously 5:14 has nothing to do except name call, talk nasty and spend all his time on here. He ought to find something to do besides spreading his own poop around!

Anonymous said...

Let the cops pick it up. Then they'll finally be the heroes everyone seems to think they are.

Anonymous said...

Let all the crap accumulate, and then in the winter time when Kevin Mcauley is making us shovel out the hydrants and the gutters, we can scoop the crap too.

Anonymous said...

No, let Wards COO do it!

Then Ward can say he got something done.